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Silicon Valley

Season 2, Episode 2 — Runaway Devaluation

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How can Gavin Belson claim that he owns Pied Piper?
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I mean, this whole lawsuit is insane, right?
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Well, let me ask you something, Richie.
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And I need you to be totally straight with me.
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Was Pied Piper related in any way
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to what you were doing when you were working at Hooli?
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No. No, not at all.
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I was doing quality assurance for mobile messaging.
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It had nothing to do with compression.
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They didn't even have a compression division at that time.
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And did you work on Pied Piper on Hooli time
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or use Hooli equipment to develop it in any way
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- at any time, Richie? - No, and no.
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Great. And by the way,
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always tell me that. And tell yourself that.
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Because if you believe it, a jury will, too.
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I do believe it. It's the truth.
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Great. That one was even better than the other one.
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I love it. Always say it exactly like that.
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Yeah, okay. Look, um...
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We're going to win this, right?
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Richie, if what you just told me is the truth,
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and don't tell me if you lied,
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Gavin's got nothing here.
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This is a classic intimidation lawsuit
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designed to freeze you until after Nucleus comes to market.
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It's got all the usual boilerplate nonsense.
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"Breach of contract," "unjust enrichment,"
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"breach of non-solicitation,"
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and the hiring of someone named Donald Dunn.
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Jared. We call him Jared.
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Changing his name to get out of it, clever but irrelevant,
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because all we care about are the intellectual property claims.
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And we will win this.
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- Good. - But we're going to have to lawyer up.
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What do you mean? Aren't you our lawyer?
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I'm not a litigator. That's what you need.
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Another lawyer? Really?
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Lawyers, Richie. You don't want to mess around here.
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A young start-up with an IP lawsuit hanging over its head?
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I wouldn't want to be a part of that team.
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Well, but you are a part of that team.
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I'm part of the team that team is on.
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Yeah. It just sounds really expensive.
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Says the guy who just got bukkaked with fat term sheets.
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Welcome to the business, Richie.
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Look, wherever we're at with your funding, legal fees will be worked into the deal.
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You've got Raviga. You're covered.
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Relax.
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"We're out"? What do you mean, "We're out"?
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Was it not clear from the context?
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We, at Raviga, are out of the business of funding Pied Piper,
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at least while the Hooli lawsuit remains unresolved.
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That suit is total nonsense.
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Nonsense is not a quantifiable metric, Monica.
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Risk is.
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Funding any early-stage company is a high-risk proposition,
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but compound that uncertainty with a legal cloud
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over the company's intellectual property, and it's untenable.
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And that is just the financial risk. There is also a legal risk.
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We could become embroiled in Gavin Belson's lawsuit
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for aiding and abetting.
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And there is a political risk for the firm,
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but especially for me as its new leader.
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I'm being heavily scrutinized from both within and without.
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I cannot have my first decision post-Peter be one with such dubious fundamentals.
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It's a rudimentary decision.
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How am I supposed to tell them this?
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In my experience, it's best to look a person in the eye
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and deliver the information with warmth and compassion.
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Okay.
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One other suggestion.
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Dress unattractively when you tell them.
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I read a study. The less sexual interest they feel for you,
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the less perturbing it will be. It sounds strange,
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but it's credible.
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May I suggest the beige ensemble
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in which you came to work... Tuesday?
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Things are just really different at Raviga,
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and I had nothing to do with the decision.
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Guys, I'm so, so sorry.
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Wait, so the company that offered us the most
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until Richard talked them into offering us the least
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is now offering us nothing?
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But the fact that you're so sorry makes it all better.
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You guys will be fine. You'll find someone else.
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We don't want someone else, Monica. The whole point of going with you guys
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was because we trust you guys.
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- Trusted. - We still have our 5% stake,
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and Laurie said that I can still sit on the board,
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which means I can still come to meetings...
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Can I say something here?
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First off, Monica, you're not fooling any of us for even a second
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with your dress-shitty-to-ease-the-pain routine.
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It's a classic chick break-up move,
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and you're not very good at it, either. You look great.
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Yeah, beige is a good color for you.
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You're a true autumn.
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Secondly, who cares?
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We have a three-foot stack of term sheets from the top VCs on the face of the planet.
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So the top one fell out. As Jay Z says,
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"On to the next one."
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Jared, who's our next best offer?
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Between the numbers and the reputation,
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that would be Coleman Blair Partners.
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I'm gonna go put my face on.
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Call Coleman Blair. Tell them that Santa Claus is coming early this year,
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and he's bringing a big bag of Pied Piper.
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Well, I'm going to leave this room without saying goodbye to you.
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I'm sure you can find your way out with one of your two faces.
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Sorry about that.
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The guys are just a little emotional.
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No, I get it.
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And look, I probably shouldn't say this,
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but there are a lot of really great VCs in town.
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You'll be fine. I just...
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Just what?
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Just tell them that you're really excited to be in business with them
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and try to close quickly.
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You know, while momentum is still on your side.
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Well, it's gonna break a lot of hearts on Sand Hill Road
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but congratulations.
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We decided to go with you.
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Uh, we were told that you were going with Raviga.
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And I am happy to say that is no longer the case.
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We're really excited to be in business with you guys.
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Can I ask... Did you walk away from them,
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or did they walk away from you because of the lawsuit?
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Ah, that lawsuit we know to be frivolous.
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Yeah.
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Is that a Yes Folder?
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No.
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So, no pastries today, huh?
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So both Raviga and Coleman Blair Partners passed
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- because of the lawsuit? - Frivolous suit. It's nothing.
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Well, it's not nothing.
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Look, before we start negging each other...
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- Negging? - It's a term used in sexual manipulation.
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Maybe not relevant here.
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We're really excited to be in business with you guys.
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Hmm...
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We actually see this lawsuit as a positive.
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We will win, and it proves that we have something worth suing over.
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And yet Raviga, Coleman Blair Partners
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and Wood Opal Fund have all passed.
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We're really excited to be in business with you guys.
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Hmm...
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You know term sheets aren't legally binding documents, right?
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Of course not. They're just guidelines
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that people follow
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unless, of course, they're pussies.
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You came in here three days ago.
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You were arrogant, condescending and offensive.
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Now you come in here, you call me a pussy...
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Whoa! I did not call you a pussy.
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I said that people who break term sheet agreements are pussies,
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and that hasn't happened... Yet.
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Thus, I haven't called you a pussy... Yet.
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You're in control of the situation.
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Hooli has the unlimited resources to hamstring you
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until Nucleus comes out, at which point, they will be the market standard,
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and you will be irrelevant.
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We're here to invest in innovation,
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not lawyers,
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so let me be perfectly honest with you.
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Your behavior
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was boorish and juvenile...
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You were rude, vulgar and uncouth.
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You were coarse, graceless and puerile.
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Obscene, insulting and ignorant.
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Ignorant?
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You called me a shit-riddled, anal wasteland.
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You called me a chode-gargling fuck-toilet.
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We're really excited to be in business with you guys.
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Uh, guys, I hate to panic you
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until I'm absolutely sure it's warranted,
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but Richard just texted me. We got our seventh pass.
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- Fuck. - Fuckin' Gavin Belson.
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All the VCs turned on us.
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Apparently, Erlich used some pretty assertive vaginal metaphors last round,
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so it's been a bit of an uphill climb.
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I think we're going have to crunch our burn-rate again.
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Even with the $50,000 from TechCrunch, we're not going to last very long.
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Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no.
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Richard said we were going to split that money, right?
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$10,000 each?
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I don't think we can afford to do that anymore.
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Fuck!
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I just donated $5,000 to my cousin Wajeed's Kickstarter campaign.
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He's trying to get an app called Bro off the ground.
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Bro?
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It's a messaging app that let's you send the word "bro"
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to everyone else who has the app.
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So it's exactly like the Yo app.
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Yes, but less original.
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Why don't you just cancel your credit card?
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That way Kickstarter can't collect your pledge.
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Well, I would love to, but he looks up to me.
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I was always like the cool cousin of the family, you know what I mean?
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Wait.
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Did you just say you were "the cool cousin"?
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Yeah.
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Please explain.
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Well, when we were kids, I was the one getting good grades,
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I was the one who was planning for my future,
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I would bring gifts for my teachers 'cause they worked so hard.
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You know, cool stuff. He was always getting in trouble,
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he got caught smoking opium in the tool shed,
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he crashed my uncle's motorbike.
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And you think you're the cool one?
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Yeah, it's different in Pakistan.
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I've never been, but I know it isn't.
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Oh, here it is. Bro 2 Bro is a 1-bit communication messenger,
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"The fastest way to speak your mind."
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As long as what's on your mind is the word "bro."
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Well, he's still shy of his goal.
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If he doesn't get there, none of the pledges get collected.
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I feel horrible for what I'm about to say,
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but I really hope he fails.
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That is the first cool thing you've ever said.
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You know what? This may not be an issue.
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Richard and Erlich are heading into their last stop.
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I trust Erlich can be diplomatic and pull it off.
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A few days ago, I came in here and I did some things
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and said some things that I should not have.
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Also, we would like to open about the fact that Pied Piper
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is involved in a complicated legal matter
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that could affect our potential value.
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And that being said, we are open
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to renegotiating the funding terms to reflect that.
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But most of all, I want to thank you.
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Thank you
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for allowing me to come in here today
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and be vulnerable and to apologize.
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Mr. Bachman, I didn't have you come all the way back here today
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just to apologize to me.
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Please, it's Erlich. And you didn't?
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Of course not. I asked you back
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because three days ago I sat right here,
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and I watched you put your testes on this reclaimed
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Brazilian Koa wood table,
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and now you're going to sit there
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and you're going watch me do the same goddamn thing to you.
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- What? What? - My turn.
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- No. But it's your table! - Yes, it is my table.
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- Oh, man. Please don't do that. - Good God!
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I think you should cancel your Kickstarter campaign.
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- Whoa... What? - Listen, I love your idea.
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- You know I do, right, bro? - Bro?
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Bro? Like, it lets you send the word "bro" to anyone else that has the app.
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I know what it is. You've explained it to me so many times.
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I love it, but you know, I'm not saying...
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Other people are, like, saying horrible stuff.
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I'm supporting you, and they're saying, like,
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"Oh, he couldn't get funding, so he had to go to Kickstarter
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"like some charity case collecting money from strangers,
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"like a street beggar who sits on the ground,
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- "eats trash." - Really?
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Yeah.
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Look, just between us,
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I was thinking about canceling, anyways,
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because we're way, way under our goal.
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Really? Really?
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Like, embarrassingly low.
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You know what?
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- That sucks. - It does really suck.
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But I think it's the right thing to do.
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- Well, you're right. - 'Cause you don't want bad word of mouth
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to kill such a great idea.
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Yeah, like with what happened to your app. Yeah.
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What do you mean, what happened to my app?
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Everybody started talking about how bad it was, and then you ended up giving up.
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I didn't give up. I left to go work on Pied Piper.
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So you're saying, then, that if Pied Piper didn't happen,
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you would still be working on your app?
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Even though all those people just shit, like, all over...
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Like all of them.
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Who are these people? Who is shitting on it?
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Our cousins, Tab, Farooq, Imran and those people.
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This girl I'm fucking.
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What have those people ever accomplished? Nothing!
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The girl I'm fucking was in the Olympics.
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People are idiots! Standing on the sidelines criticizing
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everyone who's actually trying to do things.
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You really think so?
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Yes! Yes! Absolutely! Fuck those people!
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You know what? You're right, you're right.
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That's what makes you so cool,
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that you have the fucking backbone to say that.
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- Fuck those people. - Yeah, fuck 'em all.
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- Fuck those people. - Fuck them.
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I'm not going to cancel my Kickstarter Campaign, fuck 'em.
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Wait, hold on one second.
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Yeah, no, you know what? You're right. Fuck them.
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I'm not going to cancel it, and I'm going to throw
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a huge Kickstarter party.
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I'm gonna invite everyone that I know,
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and we're going to put Bro over the top.
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Everybody, this guy is the coolest cousin!
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Thank you for the $5,000, eh?
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Whoo!
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At least I have the common decency to shave mine.
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Before you pull them out in public?
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So you're complaining about the guy's sense of decorum?
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Absolutely. We live in a society.
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I can't believe we are this fucked.
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Guys, something interesting just happened.
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So, I downloaded Wajeed's Bro app out of curiosity
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and found it very sticky.
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I've never felt like I was anyone's bro before.
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The only people who have used that term with me were assailants,
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but I started bro-ing people and getting bro'ed back.
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This is my nightmare.
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And all of a sudden, I'm bros with all kinds of people,
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including a guy from Branscomb Ventures.
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Branscomb? That's a solid shop.
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Yes. So we bro'ed about this and that,
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and then when he heard I worked at Pied Piper,
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he got excited, he triple liked my bro, and he asked about meeting us.
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Okay, but does he know about the lawsuit?
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Yeah, I told him. I mean, you know what they say,
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- "Bros disclose." - No one says that.
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Wait, doesn't Branscomb already have its own compression play?
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Yeah, but not a good one, apparently.
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I mean, they want to sit down with all of us, engineers included.
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That only happens in a second or third meeting.
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Technical due diligence. That's good.
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Okay, Jared, what did you tell him?
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Um, I was waiting a bit to bro him back,
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so that I don't seem over-eager.
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Bro him back! Bro him back.
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Bro him.
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We're not dead yet, guys.
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Well, get some sleep, my bros.
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I'll set the meeting, and, um,
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then I'll go find some hoes to prioritize behind you.
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Are you trying to say, "Bros before hoes"?
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It's sexist, but it's about friendship.
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Middle-out is based on a completely new probabilistic model.
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It finds long range structures that's hidden
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even to domain-optimized algorithms.
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I'm sorry, is this too in the weeds?
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Not at all. Take us into the weeds.
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Wouldn't you rather hear our go-to-market strategy?
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You mentioned something earlier about
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stacking Middle-out on top of another compression algorithm.
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How does that even work?
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I mean, you can't compress something that's already compressed to entropy.
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Right?
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WOW. Uh...
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I don't really get too many of those questions in meetings like these.
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But it's actually easier if I show you.
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- May I? - Absolutely.
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Okay, great. Here I go.
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Stacking Middle-out is actually very real.
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- Let's take... - Do you have to pee, Jared?
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Because I have to pee.
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I would love to pee.
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There. When you stack Middle-out...
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- They're brain-raping us, right? - They definitely are.
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Shit. All right, wait here.
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What are you doing?
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I told you I didn't have to go pee. What is happening?
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Those guys are never going to fund us. We need to leave now.
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What are you talking about? This is going great.
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I mean, VCs are never interested in how Middle-out actually works.
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Of course they're interested, because they want to steal it.
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This is a classic brain-rape.
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- What? - We did it at Hooli all the time.
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We'd schedule meetings with companies so they'd explain their technology,
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then we'd use their ideas in our products.
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- Like what happened to Yelp. - Yes.
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It's like when somebody says they want to go birding with you,
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but really they just want to get you alone in the woods,
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so they can take your binoculars.
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Look, those guys aren't doing technical due diligence.
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They're not even consultants. They're a compression company.
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One of them has braces, for fuck's sake.
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- Braces! - Shit.
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Dinesh and Gilfoyle, they're still in there.
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Middle-out doesn't restrict itself to H-264's two-dimensional grid
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or time-bound patterns at all.
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This is great. Great.
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You know, they usually don't bring us to these things and I think I know why.
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It's 'cause we steal the show.
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You guys are really helpful.
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All right, shut it down. Meeting over. We're out of here.
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No more pictures, fucking assholes.
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- I could email you... - Why is this not coming off?
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No, you're not emailing anybody.
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Thank you, Jared.
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We were bros.
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We were bros.
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Yo, yo, yo, just want to thank everyone
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for coming out to this Kickstarter party for Bro,
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the app that proves that you can change the world
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in just one word!
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Actually, it's just half a word.
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I know. It's so efficient.
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Now as you can see, we're just $5,000 away from our goal.
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But we got a whole hour left, people.
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So let's get those "bronations" going.
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Donations are funny, right?
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I mean, why would anybody donate to something like Bro
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and not a homeless shelter or schools?
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Cancer? That's still out there.
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Any of us could have it.
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Food for thought...
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Which a lot of people also don't have.
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Have a great party, guys-
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You could donate if you want,
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but he's throwing away half the world's market.
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You know what "bro" means in Mandarin?
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It means "asshole."
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You know what "bro" means in Portuguese? "Rapist."
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In Latvian, it roughly translates to
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"one who beheads the messiah."
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In Finnish, "bro" means "a baby's erection."
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In Urdu, "bro" is actually short for "brokhtaver,"
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which means "a dildo for a man."
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A man's dildo.
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"Fecal eclipse."
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it loses something in translation.
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We don't have a word for it. They do.
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It's "bro."
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You know what "bro" means in Navajo?
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A really joyful person with mental disabilities.
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All right, less than a minute to go, people.
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And we're just two grand away. Come on, you can do it, come on.
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That's that I'm talking about!
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$500 from Gilfoyle_Luci4.
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Where you at, bro? Wherever you're at, you're my bro.
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Looks like I got here just in time, bro.
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What the fuck did you do that for? Do you know how this works?
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If you put him over the edge, we both owe him money?
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But you have to pay a lot more.
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- 30 seconds left! - I'm effectively leveraging your misery.
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Somebody! Anybody!
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I'm like the Warren Buffett of fucking with you.
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- $1,100! Come on, bros. - You're a dick.
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Only $1,100 left. I might be good for that.
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- Gilfoyle, please. - I'll tell you what.
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You pay me $500, and I won't pledge anymore.
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For 500 bucks, you save $5,000.
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I'm not giving you a dime.
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- Nine, eight, seven... - Okay, I'm pledging.
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No. Stop. $500. It costs $500. Let me... Stop it. $500.
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- Okay. - Three, two...
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it doesn't matter. It's not like he's going to make his...
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What the fuck?
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Yes, yes, yes! We did it! Who was it?
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That's not how that was supposed to go.
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Mika! Mika, I love you, Mika!
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Who is that tall Asian woman?
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Some woman that Wajeed is fucking.
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She was in the Olympics.
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Ah...
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He really is the cool cousin.
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Even with the 50 grand we got at TechCrunch,
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we've only got a few weeks left to runway before we crash and burn.
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Richard, if it makes you feel any better,
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I put that Branscomb guy in his place.
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I dropped him from Bro,
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but not before I sent one final angry "bro."
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What do you mean? You can make them angry? You can make "bros" angry?
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Well, he made this bro angry.
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But technically, no, the "bro" I sent was identical
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to the previous "bros" I sent,
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but I think he'll infer the anger from context.
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This is Ron on the phone. I gotta take it.
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Yeah, okay.
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- Hello, Ron. - Hey, Richie.
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I gotta bounce on over to my mind-body thing,
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but I just wanted to give you the good news.
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I got you a top-shelf litigator.
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Yeah, uh, we should probably discuss that.
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You're gonna sweat me about the cost, right? Don't.
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I hammered them on their fee. They're going to bring it way down.
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Okay, so how much?
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This whole thing is going to cost you two, 2.5 million tops.
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- What? - I know, right. It's like it's free.
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I told you, I pay for myself.
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So I'm going to need you to head on down to their offices tomorrow
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at 10:00 a.m. You slap an 80K retainer on them,
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and we are good to go.
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Oh, shit.
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Okay, I actually have another call, so...
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I'll get out of your pubes.
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I'm emailing you intros to the guys you're meeting tomorrow.
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Later.
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Hello?
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Oh. Uh, hello.
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Yes.
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Uh-huh.
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Sure, just me?
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Okay, what time?
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Hello.
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Richard. Thanks for coming.
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What are we doing, Richard?
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Lawsuits and lawyers?
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You out there getting rejected by every VC in town?
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Neither of us want this,
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but maybe together we can find a way out.
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Yeah, easy. Drop the lawsuit.
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- You know I can't do that. - I didn't steal Pied Piper from you,
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and you know it.
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Well, that's up to the courts to decide.
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And until they do, you're frozen.
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Meanwhile, my best engineers are working around the clock
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to get me a Middle-out algorithm that surpasses yours.
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And in January when we have it and we come to market,
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you won’t just be frozen, you'll be dead.
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You played your best hand, Richard, and you lost.
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It's just business. So...
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Wouldn't you rather get something out of Pied Piper while you still can?
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- Let me acquire you. - What? No way. Are you kidding me?
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We should have just done this the first time.
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I know you thought about it. It's the perfect fit.
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You get my infrastructure, I get your speed,
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and I get it today rather than in a month or two.
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What's the downside?
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The downside is that everything I'm building
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becomes the property of your giant soulless corporation.
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And what exactly do you think you're building?
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You're out there trying to get funding so you can hire people,
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scale up, roll out a product, IPO,
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and eventually become a publicly-traded what?
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Corporation.
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We would be different.
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I see. I suppose once Pied Piper is a billion-dollar company,
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you'll seek out your competitors and help them.
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Please. Let's face it.
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What is Hooli if not the best possible future version of Pied Piper?
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You think you're building something different? No.
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You're building something that's exactly the same as what I've already built,
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except with you instead of me. But that's not possible now, Richard.
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But you know what is? We could build something together, you and me.
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Something great. Something the world needs now.
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Look, I don't have to do this.
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I'm just trying to do the right thing here.
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So, what do you say?
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You want to know what I say?
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Okay, here's what I say.